George Lowe was interviewed on May 31, 2000 by Dave Krupa at the bunkhouse of Talkeetna Air Taxi in Talkeetna, Alaska. In this interview, George describes how he became a climber, what drew him to Alaska, and what particular challenges he faced on the routes he pioneered in Alaska - some of the most demanding and audacious climbs anywhere in the world. George also weighs in on the critical issue of National Park Service management of climbing on Denali, as well as the benefits and drawbacks of search and rescue fallbacks for climbers.
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Project: Denali Mountaineering
Date of Interview: May 31, 2000
Narrator(s): George Lowe
Interviewer(s): David Krupa
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Sections
1) Personal background and his introduction to climbing
2) How he got to Alaska, and the Lowe family history
3) His first climb in Alaska on Mount Hunter
4) Continuation of Mount Hunter story
5) The descent of Mount Hunter and other climbs
6) Description of the Infinite Spur and the challenges present in that climb
7) The approach to the Infinite Spur climb
8) The first night on the Infinite Spur
9) The crux of the Infinite Spur
10) The ninety pitches where the Infinite Spur got its name
11) Breaking through a cornice and taking a fall on the Infinite Spur
12) Michael Kennedy jumping off the other side of the ridge to save him
13) Describing the descent from the Infinite Spur and comparing it to his previous climbs
14) Comparing the Infinite Spur to the Cassin Ridge
15) The importance of not giving up too easily
16) How to deal with fear
17) Continuation of discussion about how to deal with fear
18) Scary climbs and coming back to Alaska
19) What he looks for in climbing partners
20) The mental side of mountaineering
21) How family affects a climber's lifestyle
22) Attitude towards mountaineering today
23) His opinion about new National Park Service regulations at Denali
24) His opinion about rescuing mountaineers
25) His feelings about the cost of rescues
26) The growing issue of rescues
27) The use of helicopters for rescues, and why he does not guide
28) The impact of increased guiding activity
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Section 1: Ogden, UT\ skiing\ Lowe, Ralph -- uncle\ Lowe family\ father -- ski patrol\ climbing -- Tetons\ Grand Teton -- age records\ bouldering -- quartzite\ California -- southern\ college\ rock climbing|
Section 2: Alaska -- climbing\ Devil's Thumb -- southeast\ Alaska Range\ Jones, Chris\ Flores, Ledo?\ weather -- poor\ Alaska -- introduction\ Teton Mountains -- winter mountaineering\ South America\ Andes\ Peru\ routes -- new\ Lowe, Jeff\ Mt. Foraker -- South Face\ Mt. Hunter -- Kennedy, Michael\ Lowe family\ Lowe, Mike\ Lowe, Greg\ Anchorage\ Lowe, Dave\ British Petroleum\ Tetons -- ranger\ Lowe, Alex |
Section 3: Lowe, Jeff\ Mt. Hunter -- North Face\ ankle -- broken\ basecamp -- Kahiltna\ Kennedy, Michael\ West Ridge\ glaciers\ ice ridge\ cornice\ ice triangle\ protection -- deadman\ rappelling\ crampons\ gear -- recovery|
Section 4: equipment -- recovery\ ice triangle\ bivouac\ cornice ridge\ graduate school\ tools -- quality\ ice climbing\ summit\ West Ridge -- descent\ crevasse -- fall\ high camp|
Section 5: Mount Hunter -- North Face\ descent -- dangers\ traverse\ cornices\ avalanche -- risk\ ice triangle\ rappelling\ weather -- good\ Lowe, Jeff\ base camp\ Kahiltna International\ basecamp\ moonflower\ Himalayas\ Alaska -- preparation\ Mount Foraker -- South Face\ Kennedy, Michael\ Lowe, Jeff\ Donini, Jim\ West Ridge\ Infinite Spur\ Cassin Ridge\ adventure -- limits|
Section 6: Mt. Hunter\ weather -- conditions\ Lowe, Jeff\ Mt. Foraker\ Infinite Spur\ ice -- cliffs\ glaciers -- ice falls\ face -- steep\ risks -- base\ photos -- aerial\ wall -- 9,000 ft.\ Alaska Range\ elements -- exposed\ ice -- types\ water ice -- hard\ wall -- exposure\ ledges -- chopping|
Section 7: Southeast Ridge -- cache\ cache -- skis\ pass -- difficult\ rating\ rock -- quality\ climbers\ mountaineering -- committed\ gear -- hauling\ food -- carrying\ loads -- huge\ climb -- big wall\ glacier\ Kennedy, Michael\ base -- danger\ spur -- shelter\ climb -- 5.7\ climbing -- good\ sections -- mixed\ rock -- soft\ crampons\ ice axe|
Section 8: tent -- site\ platform\ Lowe Alpine -- tent\ tent -- weight\ campsite -- secure\ climb -- duration\ Alaska Range -- June\ Alpine Trail\ bivouac\ crux\ ice ledge\ ledges -- chopping\ cooking\ weather -- good\ section -- rock\ ice -- quality\ screws\ rope\ climbing\ protection -- placement\ slope -- ice\ fatigue|
Section 9: fatigue\ pitches -- crux\ pitches -- rating\ rock -- poor quality\ granite -- shattered\ climbing -- steep\ packs -- hauling\ platform\ mist\ exposure\ bivouac -- ledges\ face -- apex\ ridge -- immense\ weather -- cleared\ ridge -- traverse\ climbing -- easy\ Anchorage, AK|
Section 10: glacier -- hanging\ face -- upper\ pitches -- quantity\ climb -- duration\ name -- origin\ climbing -- serious\ ice -- types\ water ice\ bivouac\ glacier\ climb -- leading\ relationship -- good\ pitches -- ice\ pitons -- rock\ cave \ crevasse\ tent \ safety\ weather -- storm\ wind -- strong\ gear -- better\ ?, Carl\ ?, Barry\ spur\ crux\ tent -- buried\ shoveling|
Section 11: terrain -- fourth class\ snow -- hard\ jacket -- down\ cold\ weather -- storm\ day -- brilliant\ summit -- view\ weather -- fortunate\ climb -- straight forward\ Southeast Ridge -- cornice\ fall -- cornice\ ridge -- width\ walking -- simultaneous\ probe\ crevasse -- horizontal\ frequency -- resonant\ cornice -- broke\ Kennedy, Michael|
Section 12: self-arresting\ cornice -- mass\ glacier -- below\ rope -- tightened\ self-arrest -- uphill\ ice axe -- stuck\ crampons\ Kennedy, Michael\ injury -- nose\ rope -- loose\ ice hammer\ wall -- vertical\ dinner\ ridge\ weather -- storm|
Section 13: ice cliffs\ weather -- storm\ descent\ distance -- short\ Southeast Ridge\ ice cliff -- hazardous\ slope -- dirt\ limits -- pushing\ relief\ strengths\ judgement -- mistake\ cornices\ crevasses\ career -- climbing\ risk\ climb -- committed\ Alaska -- weather\ weather -- systems\ climbing -- technical\ distance -- vertical\ walking\ mountain -- upper\ Peru\ Huandoy -- North Face\ climbing -- serious\ Grand Teton\ winter -- conditions\ conditions -- severity\ Alaska -- summer\ altitude\ route -- length\ weather -- potential\ Denali|
Section 14: Denali\ Cassin Ridge\ Infinite Spur\ partner -- inexperienced\ strong\ competent\ pitch -- difficult\ glacier\ magnitude -- different\ route -- aesthetic\ climbing -- incredible\ climbing -- future\ alpinists -- best\ Infinite Spur -- route\ climbing -- hard\ climbing -- unexpected\ techniques -- coping\ children\ education -- importance\ family -- motto|
Section 15: work\ trying\ risk\ giving up\ mountains -- death\ frost bite\ route--completion\ fatigue\ rock climbing\ California\ rest\ hydration\ food\ situation -- prepared\ Cassin Ridge\ climbers -- Koreans\ calling -- help\ Alaska -- mountains\ risk --severe\ apprenticeship -- importance|
Section 16: limits -- stretched\ Mt. Foraker\ Canadian Rockies -- North Twin\ climb -- technical\ choice -- none\ gear -- insufficient\ pieces -- dropped\ weather -- storm\ conditions -- bad\ descent\ ascent\ route -- easier\ crux\ airplane\ flying -- options\ situation -- choice\ game -- mental\ fear -- management\ experience|
Section 17: climbing -- scared\ preparation\ flying\ jets\ Cessna 150\ mountains -- apprenticeship\ fear -- control\ situation -- understanding\ danger\ thought -- rational\ fear\ falling\ ledge\ ankle -- break\ focus -- critical\ safety|
Section 18: climb -- free solo\ route -- crack\ safety\ routes - rated\ limits\ mind -- control\ fear\ rope -- backup\ climbing -- friends\ Alaska -- Denali\ Cassin Ridge\ routes -- new\ South Face\ rock -- good\ ice\ mixed\ West Buttress\ 17 Camp\ Cassin -- isolated\ crowds|
Section 19: alchemy -- importance\ trust -- importance\ partnership -- critical\ skill\ Hankey, Rich\ strength\ skills -- comparable\ team -- balanced\ fun\ intense\ focus -- achieve\ friends -- lifetime\ Cassin Ridge\ Mt. Everest -- East Face\ group -- incredible|
Section 20: reflection -- motivation\ mountains -- enjoyment\ challenge -- physical\ challenge -- mental\ work\ puzzle -- solving\ control -- mental\ life -- daily\ mountaineering\ graduate school\ development -- personal\ focus -- solutions\ work\ problems\ food\ partnership\ gear\ problem solving\ work -- systems engineer|
Section 21: home -- relationships\ absences -- long\ Alaska Range - proximity\ Himalayas\ mountains -- accessible\ mountains -- beautiful\ cost\ travel -- lengthy\ bureaucracies -- foreign\ Alaska\ areas -- unique\ access -- easy\ rock\ ice\ mountains -- high\ routes -- long\ feature -- individual\ mountains -- Asia\ Pakistan\ Ladok\ Infinite Spur\ climbing -- technical\ great ranges\ time -- limited\ soul -- restless\ weather -- bad\ Patagonia -- waiting\ India\ Pakistan\ cultural -- exchange\ bureaucracy|
Section 22: National Park Service\ task -- management\ area -- popular\ popularity -- international routes -- elegant\ route -- serious\ decisions\ dependency\ crowds -- dangerous\ dependency -- disasters\ self-reliance\ fee \ education -- critical\ numbers -- increase\ human waste -- removal\ routes -- remote\ Mother Nature\ litter\ restrictions|
Section 23: National Park Service -- education\ environment -- preservation\ Denali\ guide -- qualified\ Cassin Ridge\ South Face\ waiting period\ restrictions -- reasons\ climbers -- number\ access -- equal\ service -- guided\ climbers -- private\ American Alpine Club -- Board of Directors\ climbers -- freedom\ preservation\ West Buttress\ environment -- mountain\ resource -- damage\ classes\ fairness\ fees -- climbers\ fishers\ pollution\ hunters\ taxes -- federal|
Section 24: National Park Service -- programs\ Denali National Park -- environment\ preservation\ buildings -- employees\ empire\ access\ Ruth Gorge\ rock climbing\ National Park Service -- lecture\ Denali\ education\ mountain -- serious\ rescues\ radios\ limits -- pushed|
Section 25: National Park Service\ insurance -- rescue\ rescue -- charges\ rescues -- discourage\ decisions -- bad\ pulmonary edema\ taxpayer\ route -- regular\ serac -- break\ avalanche\ mountaineering -- hazards\ Cassin Ridge\ climbers -- Koreans\ Cassin Ridge\ behavior -- irresponsible\ discouragement\ hunters\ backpackers\ fisherman\ climbers -- singled out\ rescues -- cost\ rescues -- mountain\ searches -- cost\ data -- scientific\ opinions\ statistics|
Section 26: cell phones -- presence\ ankle -- twisted\ struggle\ Rescue Rangers -- patrol\ balance -- difficult\ death\ decisions\ liability -- suit\ liability -- moral\ decisions\ environment -- self reliance\ Mt. Hunter -- rescue\ ankle -- broken\ risk -- reduction\ pulmonary edema\ National Park Service|
Section 27: Teton Mountains\ Alaska\ helicopters -- rescues\ West Buttress -- wilderness\ Kahiltna International -- open\ Denali -- time\ climb -- difficult\ rescuers -- risk\ winching\ victim\ risk -- decrease\ Cassin\ altitude -- high\ National Park Service\ climbing -- personal\ guiding\ fun\ time -- limited\ mountains\ teaching -- children\ guide -- patience\ finances\ fortunate\ clients|
Section 28: guiding -- increased\ Mt. Everest\ advertising\ publicity\ Krakauer, Jon\ Denali\ Seven Summits\ people -- aware\ environment -- use\ resources\ preservation\ blessing -- mixed\ National Park Service\ abuse\ guides\ mountains\ climbing -- goals\ heart attack\ climb -- 5.9\ ?, Fred\ Shockley?\ Weisner\ endurance\ family -- importance\ kids -- focus\ soccer -- coach\ mountains -- risks\ parent -- worry\ unknown -- exploration\ limits -- pushing\ learning\ Talkeetna, AK -- bunkhouse|