Cole and his mother, Lorene Ellis, were interviewed on June 11, 1993 by Bill Schneider and David Krupa at the family homestead, Mile 42 on the Nabesna Road in Nabesna, Alaska. In this interview, Cole and Lorene speak about the joys and hardships of their lives at the "end of the road," high in the Wrangell Mountains. They candidly discuss what this life means to them and how guiding, despite its recent vilification in some circles, has been for them a way of life rooted in love and respect for the land and animals upon which they depend. They discuss the effect of park development on their lives, and admit that the future for big game guiding looks limited. They recognize that the pressures upon land and resources are growing steadily from all directions, and in this respect they have common interests with the National Park Service. They speak of their fears and hopes for the future and of their yearning to be understood in their own right as hardworking people with ties to the area that go much deeper than those of the recently arrived officials who, by virtue of their federal mandate, will exert great control over the Ellis' fate.